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		<title>Comment on The anti-vacc movement; an Australian perspective. by Major step against antivaxxers in Australia &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/02/28/the-anti-vacc-movement-an-australian-perspective/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>Major step against antivaxxers in Australia &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] come within a glancing blow of reality (like the AVN is not antivax, when their slogan is &quot;Love them, protect them, never inject them&quot;), so I&#8217;m very happy that they will get scrutinized by the HCCC. This could result in anything [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] come within a glancing blow of reality (like the AVN is not antivax, when their slogan is &quot;Love them, protect them, never inject them&quot;), so I&#8217;m very happy that they will get scrutinized by the HCCC. This could result in anything [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vaccines are part of a world wide plot to commit mass genocide. This is not a conspiracy. by scepdoll</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/vaccines-are-part-of-a-world-wide-plot-to-commit-mass-genocide-this-is-not-a-conspiracy/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>scepdoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Darran, it was a blog post with a link to the Pakistan News article which now has a 404 error. But you can find the original post (not credited by the Pakistani site) here http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darran, it was a blog post with a link to the Pakistan News article which now has a 404 error. But you can find the original post (not credited by the Pakistani site) here <a href="http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191" rel="nofollow">http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/25191</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vaccines are part of a world wide plot to commit mass genocide. This is not a conspiracy. by Darran Edmundson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darran Edmundson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be clear, did this article appear on AVN as a vetted post, or was it included as a comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, did this article appear on AVN as a vetted post, or was it included as a comment?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) to be investigated by the Health Care Complaints Commission by Paul</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/the-avn-to-be-investigated-by-the-health-care-complaints-commission/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess it failed and the ABC is now giving them air time as a valid voice in the vaccination &quot;debate&quot;

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/19/2690820.htm

Bloggers are already on to it:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/19/australias-abc-promotes-health-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-214289


Comments to the ABC can be left at:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/contact/feedback.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess it failed and the ABC is now giving them air time as a valid voice in the vaccination &#8220;debate&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/19/2690820.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/19/2690820.htm</a></p>
<p>Bloggers are already on to it:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/19/australias-abc-promotes-health-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-214289" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/19/australias-abc-promotes-health-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-214289</a></p>
<p>Comments to the ABC can be left at:<br />
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/contact/feedback.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/contact/feedback.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on An open letter to Australian parents about vaccination by annymorris</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/an-open-letter-to-australian-parents-about-vaccination/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>annymorris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ken, I wouldn&#039;t say so. The vaccination theme becomes hotter and hotter. Especially for those who are expecting to have a vaccine soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ken, I wouldn&#8217;t say so. The vaccination theme becomes hotter and hotter. Especially for those who are expecting to have a vaccine soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vaccines are part of a world wide plot to commit mass genocide. This is not a conspiracy. by annymorris</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/vaccines-are-part-of-a-world-wide-plot-to-commit-mass-genocide-this-is-not-a-conspiracy/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>annymorris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good day. As far as I know the swine CAN NOT infect the human. Is this true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good day. As far as I know the swine CAN NOT infect the human. Is this true?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Miracle patches that cure everything, or do they&#8230; by freesvea</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/03/14/miracle-patches-that-cure-everything-or-do-they/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>freesvea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From reading your blog would I be correct to assume that you do not believe in homeopathic treatments, acupuncture and other &quot;alternative therapies&quot;? Just becasue you can&#039;t understand how something could possibly work, or just becasue you don&#039;t feel there is an adequate scientific explanation for how something could work, it doesn&#039;t mean that it DOES NOT work.

Have you actually tried the LifeWave patches yourself??? I have been unwell for almost 10 years and have been too unwell to work for over 3 years with Chronic Fatigue caused by a range of other problems including hypothyroidism. I have tried many MANY different things. I spent many years unnecessarily unwell becasue normal doctors of the western medicine approach were so utterly clueless.

I have tried many alternative approaches as I have been desperate. But nothing has really worked for me. The &quot;placebo&quot; effect you so generously refer to, has unfortunately not done much for me. I&#039;m too sceptical I suppose. I&#039;m always doubtful things will work unless I can clearly see the results. 

I have tried some homeopathic stuff before, most have not worked, while some I liked even though I wasn&#039;t at all convinced that they really did anything. I don&#039;t see how it could possibly work. It doesn&#039;t make sense to me.

So when a friend told me about the lifewave patches I was sceptical, but I wasn&#039;t going to pass it up, as I was desperate. If it&#039;s not too ridiculously expensive for me, then I&#039;ll at least give it a shot, despite being sceptical.

Well, they DID work. They haven&#039;t miraculously cured me. I&#039;m not suddenly a record breaking athlete. But I do have significantly more energy, more stamina, and more constant and even energy levels, and I recover more quickly from activity. I use the Glutathione patch, and it has significantly improved my life. It&#039;s not a placebo, as I&#039;m too sceptical and cynical for that. (I&#039;m not disputing that the placebo effect exists, I&#039;ve studied psychology, so I&#039;m quite aware that it exists) It&#039;s easy for someone who doesn&#039;t have a clue to say &quot;oh, it&#039;s a placebo&quot;. I think you&#039;ll find that people who suffer from extreme fatigue, exhaustion and pain, are quite capable of telling the difference!!! If you are not one of these courageous people, then you are not really qualified to dispute them. You probably think you are, but you&#039;re really not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From reading your blog would I be correct to assume that you do not believe in homeopathic treatments, acupuncture and other &#8220;alternative therapies&#8221;? Just becasue you can&#8217;t understand how something could possibly work, or just becasue you don&#8217;t feel there is an adequate scientific explanation for how something could work, it doesn&#8217;t mean that it DOES NOT work.</p>
<p>Have you actually tried the LifeWave patches yourself??? I have been unwell for almost 10 years and have been too unwell to work for over 3 years with Chronic Fatigue caused by a range of other problems including hypothyroidism. I have tried many MANY different things. I spent many years unnecessarily unwell becasue normal doctors of the western medicine approach were so utterly clueless.</p>
<p>I have tried many alternative approaches as I have been desperate. But nothing has really worked for me. The &#8220;placebo&#8221; effect you so generously refer to, has unfortunately not done much for me. I&#8217;m too sceptical I suppose. I&#8217;m always doubtful things will work unless I can clearly see the results. </p>
<p>I have tried some homeopathic stuff before, most have not worked, while some I liked even though I wasn&#8217;t at all convinced that they really did anything. I don&#8217;t see how it could possibly work. It doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.</p>
<p>So when a friend told me about the lifewave patches I was sceptical, but I wasn&#8217;t going to pass it up, as I was desperate. If it&#8217;s not too ridiculously expensive for me, then I&#8217;ll at least give it a shot, despite being sceptical.</p>
<p>Well, they DID work. They haven&#8217;t miraculously cured me. I&#8217;m not suddenly a record breaking athlete. But I do have significantly more energy, more stamina, and more constant and even energy levels, and I recover more quickly from activity. I use the Glutathione patch, and it has significantly improved my life. It&#8217;s not a placebo, as I&#8217;m too sceptical and cynical for that. (I&#8217;m not disputing that the placebo effect exists, I&#8217;ve studied psychology, so I&#8217;m quite aware that it exists) It&#8217;s easy for someone who doesn&#8217;t have a clue to say &#8220;oh, it&#8217;s a placebo&#8221;. I think you&#8217;ll find that people who suffer from extreme fatigue, exhaustion and pain, are quite capable of telling the difference!!! If you are not one of these courageous people, then you are not really qualified to dispute them. You probably think you are, but you&#8217;re really not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vaccines are part of a world wide plot to commit mass genocide. This is not a conspiracy. by Whats Hot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Keep hammering the antivaxxers!</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/vaccines-are-part-of-a-world-wide-plot-to-commit-mass-genocide-this-is-not-a-conspiracy/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>Whats Hot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Keep hammering the antivaxxers!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if you&#8217;re inclined to give Meryl Dorey and her AVN group the benefit of the doubt, you might want to read up on some of the other, um, stuff they believe. It may open your eyes.          [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if you&#8217;re inclined to give Meryl Dorey and her AVN group the benefit of the doubt, you might want to read up on some of the other, um, stuff they believe. It may open your eyes.          [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) to be investigated by the Health Care Complaints Commission by Ian Pulsford</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/the-avn-to-be-investigated-by-the-health-care-complaints-commission/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Pulsford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like a win-win to me.  Either she&#039;s a &quot;health practitioner&quot; and has to operate under what ever rules that covers (not disseminate misinformation?), or she&#039;s not a &quot;health practitioner&quot; further denting her meagre credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a win-win to me.  Either she&#8217;s a &#8220;health practitioner&#8221; and has to operate under what ever rules that covers (not disseminate misinformation?), or she&#8217;s not a &#8220;health practitioner&#8221; further denting her meagre credibility.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vaccines are part of a world wide plot to commit mass genocide. This is not a conspiracy. by Doctor</title>
		<link>http://skepticzone.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/vaccines-are-part-of-a-world-wide-plot-to-commit-mass-genocide-this-is-not-a-conspiracy/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. It&#039;s a master plan. We feel a little discomfort now. On behalf of the other illuminati I&#039;d like to explain what we&#039;re up to. Hopefully you will accept our gesture and live in peace with us. For a while. Whatever you do, please stop blogging our plans!
 
We are lizards from prehistorical times and far away (like in V) and we try to enslave you, manipulate you and kill you at the same time, over and over, and we are giving clear signs about it that only lunatics can see. We&#039;d like to have everybody vaccinated in the most stupid ways in order to turn you off. Erase you. We are chaotic because we want to hide our tracks. And nobody would believe lunatics anyway. We want to get rid of you over and over because we want to eat you. Well, there you go!
 
In 2010 we want to destroy the human population with swine flue and vaccination and in 2012, when the Mayan calendar ends, we want to destroy you all again, but then with floods and such. Then you will be our eatable slaves because we are too stupid to make robots, communication systems, means of interstellar travel and grow fastfood. Why I am disclosing this? We tried to fool you with Heavens Gate in 1997, with Nostradamus in 1986 and in many more historical occasions, but it didn&#039;t work because only lunatics were foreseeing the end. Now it is different. Beware.
 
PS, if we fail, please look out for 2021, 2026, 2035, 2041 and any other suitable year. You will recognize the signs like earthquakes in Alaska, a storm on the ocean, a lunar eclips, a falling meteor, the parents of your spouse inviting themselves in unexpectedly and/or a cloud in the sky that looks like an ordinary cloud and most probably is. Which is weird. FYI, the Hopi Calendar ends in 2014, the Mimo Calendar ends in 2018, the Big Whale Calendar already ended and there are many more. Are you curious? Do not hesitate to buy my book. It may save you and your children. Buy it for them. It only costs 2000 dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. It&#8217;s a master plan. We feel a little discomfort now. On behalf of the other illuminati I&#8217;d like to explain what we&#8217;re up to. Hopefully you will accept our gesture and live in peace with us. For a while. Whatever you do, please stop blogging our plans!</p>
<p>We are lizards from prehistorical times and far away (like in V) and we try to enslave you, manipulate you and kill you at the same time, over and over, and we are giving clear signs about it that only lunatics can see. We&#8217;d like to have everybody vaccinated in the most stupid ways in order to turn you off. Erase you. We are chaotic because we want to hide our tracks. And nobody would believe lunatics anyway. We want to get rid of you over and over because we want to eat you. Well, there you go!</p>
<p>In 2010 we want to destroy the human population with swine flue and vaccination and in 2012, when the Mayan calendar ends, we want to destroy you all again, but then with floods and such. Then you will be our eatable slaves because we are too stupid to make robots, communication systems, means of interstellar travel and grow fastfood. Why I am disclosing this? We tried to fool you with Heavens Gate in 1997, with Nostradamus in 1986 and in many more historical occasions, but it didn&#8217;t work because only lunatics were foreseeing the end. Now it is different. Beware.</p>
<p>PS, if we fail, please look out for 2021, 2026, 2035, 2041 and any other suitable year. You will recognize the signs like earthquakes in Alaska, a storm on the ocean, a lunar eclips, a falling meteor, the parents of your spouse inviting themselves in unexpectedly and/or a cloud in the sky that looks like an ordinary cloud and most probably is. Which is weird. FYI, the Hopi Calendar ends in 2014, the Mimo Calendar ends in 2018, the Big Whale Calendar already ended and there are many more. Are you curious? Do not hesitate to buy my book. It may save you and your children. Buy it for them. It only costs 2000 dollar.</p>
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